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 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 31 08 2011 17:16 
ihna
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training for the student nurses are really essential to make them a complete and professional RN nurses. I hope that there are a lot of such bridging programs available for the same....
 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 07 08 2010 09:16 
amanda63
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I think our facility runs a really good post-graduate and 2nd year post-graduate programme. As a preceptor, and at times Facilitator, I have found the biggest hurdle for a new grad. is time-management. Alas, some will never develop this skill....but most will. I have found the skill-base that grads. come out with to be really good, grads. are willing to learn and the educators on the wards are invaluable. i say to all graduating nurses please, please please don't be afraid to ask the "dumb' questions. I have found, in my 30 years experience, that those that don't ask questions are the nurses to watch very carefully.

 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 10 05 2010 15:30 
Nurses Only
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As we all know the field is so so different to the classroom it can be so hard for the students, i beleive a lot of RN's out there really do want to help and be a good teacher but often RN's are given a huge amount of resposibility while working on an under-staffed ward. I am sure I am not the only one who has turned up to work on a monday morning find out 3 of your collegues have called in sick and are replaced with casual nurses who have never worked on the ward and then the manager presents you with a Student Nurses who you are clinically resposible for that's a huge stress for the RN, but it also a great reality lesson for the Student that this is the environment they will be working in shortly and it's waht you make of it that counts.I think most of us do a great job at preceptoring the Students. But I also remember from experience some were quite unhelpful but all those RN's that took the time to teach me and let me learn for myself and I remeber those were the RN's I modelled myself on and vowed that when I was an RN I would always take the time to teach my Student RN's no matter how busy I am and that has led to me being asked to fill in as the educator when the clinical Nurse Educator is away and this is always a welcome change from the wards. hang in there it does get better! Nursesonly www.nursesonly.com.au
 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 10 05 2010 11:38 
NU_Editor
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Hi Jessica - you shared what I think most student nurses feel about their future and what they've experienced and are experiencing.

I've published your sharing on our blog too: I feel unprepared says Graduating Student Nurse

 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 09 05 2010 13:25 
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Just beggers belief that humans do this to themselves, work for no pay in a "so so so" :) mentioned Profession that cares for others and carries out the fullest support of the National Australia Health basis and gets treated like...as T A put it..'crap'!

Who else do you know does it?

 And too top this off folks, there is no real indication from any Political sides as to nurses getting better treatment?..is there?

And before you all jump down my throat on 'this Post' all it is based on the facts,truth and reality. After 16 yrs nursing I have seen, listened too and had to adjust too so much. Nothing is ever set in concrete and change is just that.

If you want too effect it you can. Assignments are set by whom and for what purpose?

FACT: to keep their jobs and funding from Govts so as too maintain them on Campus...and for no other reason...they don't print the text.

 Subject :Student nurse to RN.. 09 05 2010 10:22 
Jessica
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 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 09 05 2010 10:21 
Jessica
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Hi everyone. I am in my final year as a student nurse and only have a few months before I graduate. To say I'm nervous is an understatement though it stems from feeling wholly unprepared. Personally I learn alot from my practical experiences, though I will admit that I have spent many of them doing basics (many showers, manual handling etc...) All the things I do has a paid AIN.

I've found that some of the best RNs are the 1st,2nd and 3rd years out who still remember what it was like to be a student wanting to get in and do "clinical", are still learning themselves and are therefore very accepting if you want to look something up. *** RNs - as students we want to feel like we actually have a career ahead of us, throwing us into a 4 bed room and telling us to shower everyone while you go an do ECGs, medications, talk to the doctors etc doesn't inspire us. I've found that some doctors are willing to teach more than some RNs. I once did a rotation in theatres and had the Anaesthetist pull me aside in the middle of surgery and explain what was happening, what he does, what each drug was for, how to measure different aspects in the unconscious patient. It was very enlightening and I went home that night and studied up all I could for what I have learnt. Unfortunately not every prac is like that and I will admit I have had more bad than good pracs.

At my uni, I have found that last year consisted of information overload with extremely long semesters that started in Jan and finished in Dec. This year though, we have 2 semesters consisting of; 3 weeks of "intensive" lectures/tutorials, though this was only 3 days a week and was quite disorganised. After this we have 6 weeks of prac (which is good but it is a long time to not be able to work and earn money to pay for the fact that 95% of us have to travel for prac as it is only a small area and not many hospitals. Last I looked, temporary travel, accommodation and food costs alot of money and many still have to pay for their permanent accommodation on top).

For those students such as myself who had yet to complete mental health, I spent 6 weeks away from the hospital and the location was such that I was away from my family. On top of this I had 3x3000word essays due the week we got back and a few weeks later we have exams. By the end of this semester I didn't feel I learnt anything except what my assignments were about and a few little things on prac. I'm hoping to get a hospital placement for my final prac (6 weeks again) and even if I do it would have been 12 months since I last did anything clinical (aside from the very rare wound or vaccination).

Does this make me feel unprepared - absolutely. I've been told that despite feeling unprepared, the new grad year is a godsend and after a few weeks alot of things come back to you. Not to mention the fact that you can ask for help and not fail because you don't know the answer. This alone is the "light at the end of the dark tunnel". Anyone else have advice on how to survive the final 6 months of training and then the transition from student to professional? (sorry for the long post - I had to vent somewhere) Jess

 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 16 02 2010 07:25 
nurseuncut
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That is a shame they don't do the transition yr anymore! We also did it unpaid however, and we were expected to come back to Uni every 2 weeks with all of our assignments completed ( there wasn't the convenience of handing them in electronically we physically had to hand them into the office downstairs) Maybe students were getting to burnt out working for free 3 days a week and then having to work at our P/T jobs on the other days. It was however VERY helpful because most of my year got jobs in the hospitals on the wards that they finished their final elective on so they knew the staff on the ward and already knew how the ward functioned etc ( provided you got your 1st choice after your consortium interview)
 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 16 02 2010 07:24 
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I'm a 3rd year uts student and we certainly don't do what shoils mentioned anymore, although I think it's a great idea. Currently 3rd year students do a total of 10 weeks split into 2 and 3 week blocks. The problem with this is that while we are earning such valuable experience on placements, we are essentially working full time without pay and also expected to complete assignments and online assessments at the same time. Add to this a need for some kind of income and you've got one very stressed out student! Which is a shame as it all tends to mean we don't get as much out of our placements as we could. That said, it is the knowledge and guidence from all you lovely RNs (and ENs too) that makes me feel confident that I won't completely crash and burn next year! I can also definitely vouch for undergrad AIN experience. I've worked as an AIN for the last two years and it has absolutely made a world of difference not just in terms of basic nursing skills and patient interaction, but it also allows you to see all that theoretical knowledge in practice.
 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 16 02 2010 07:24 
nurseuncut
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Hi,
UTS students we see certainly don't do anything like that shoils, not even third year!
I think it's very important to encourage nursing students to gain experience as an AIN in some type of facility whilst training. I never did and I found it so hard to go from a student to an RN. It gives them an extra base for time management, priority setting and interpersonal relations skills, as well as communication. These are consistently the things that we have to get new graduate RNs to concentrate on and work at during their first year of practice, as they are the skills that are most lacking. No one expects RN1s to know everything, but being able to set priorities, communicate and work with the patients are fundamental to the doing anything else!
I have just spent the day doing new grad interviews for next year, and I can certainly say that having experience as an AIN or even an EN makes a huge difference to the quality of answers you get at interviews! I wish I had done it when I was going through uni....would have made life easier!
 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 16 02 2010 07:24 
nurseuncut
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Hi guys,
UTS has a great transition yr in 3rd year where you spend the entire year workng 3 days a week, 8hr shifts ( am, pm and nocte) full pt load on the wards. You do half the year doing med/surg, 10 weeks doing an elective and 8 weeks doing a subelective. I don't know if they still do it ( this was back in '99) but that was such a great idea, by the time we graduated we had already worked on the wards then coupled with a new grad year, you are bound to feel comfortable with the basics. I hope UTS still does this ( if there are any UTS students out there let us know) I have to say though many of the RN's out there need to change their attitude towards student nurses. The whole roll your eyes thing and make your students do nothing but bed pans and medial pt care does not help students become good, knowledgable RN's. I always tell my staff the new girls or students are only as good as you train them. I too am really interested to hear from the students out there Big  Smile
 Subject :Re:Student nurse to RN.. 16 02 2010 07:23 
nurseuncut
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good thread - I hope new RN's reply so I know what helps the transition. I remember it being a bit nerve-wracking at first. I felt sooo much responsibility.
 Subject :Student nurse to RN.. 16 02 2010 07:23 
nurseuncut
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Do you feel your training equips you for the transition from student to RN? Do the ward RNs help or hinder? SSmile
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